The two men talked about Muskâs Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), predicting $1 trillion in suspect spending will be found.
President Donald Trump and Elon Musk discussed waste, fraud, abuse, and more in a joint interview with Sean Hannity that aired on Feb. 18.
Musk also sought to make it clear he stands with Trump and vice versa.
âI think President Trump is a good man,â the tech entrepreneur said.
Trump reciprocated, saying he âcouldnât find anyone smarterâ than Musk to assist his administration.
Musk Would Have Endorsed Trump Even Without Assassination Attempt
Musk, best known for his work with SpaceX, Tesla Motors, and other tech firms, publicly backed Trump after an attempt on his life at a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, in July 2024. But the tech titanâs support was apparently already in the cards.
During the Feb. 18 joint interview, Musk said that he was âgoing to do it anyway.â The assassination attempt, which claimed the life of Corey Comperatore, simply accelerated Muskâs timeline.
âI sped it up,â Musk said.
The president said he âdidnât know thatâ about Muskâs endorsement.
Musk went on to stump for the then-candidate. He also donated hundreds of millions to backing Trump.
Musk said his time with Trump deepened his appreciation of the presidentâs characterâa point of contention for Trumpâs critics, including some of the Republicans who contested him during the 2024 primary.
âNot once have I seen him do something that was mean or cruel or wrong,â Musk said.

Elon Musk (L) speaks as President Donald Trump looks on in the Oval Office of the White House on Feb. 11, 2025. Jim Watson/AFP via Getty Images
Trump, Musk Say They Are Not at Odds
The two men also talked about the publicity around their joint efforts, accusing the media of trying to fracture their relationship.
As DOGE was taking shape after Election Day, some news outlets reported that Muskâs ascendance was elevating him to a quasi-presidential role, a line of argument advanced by some Democrats.
Trump said Musk phoned him to say, ââYou know, theyâre trying to drive us apart.ââ
âItâs just so obvious. Theyâre so bad at it. I used to think they were good at it. Theyâre actually bad at it, because if they were good at it, Iâd never be president,â he added.
Musk also affirmed his commitment to advancing, and not usurping, the elected president. He pointed out that his T-shirt read, âTech Support.â
âIâm going to provide the president with technology support,â he said. âItâs a very important thing because the president will make these executive orders which are very sensible and good for the country, but then they donât get implemented.â
Musk on DOGE-Related Conflicts of Interest: âIâll Recuse Myselfâ
The interview also touched on potential conflicts of interest between Muskâs businesses and DOGE.
Many of the entrepreneurâs firms have benefited from extensive government support, from subsidies for Teslaâs electric vehicles to Pentagon contracts with SpaceX.
Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.), a critic of DOGE and Musk, mentioned those possible conflicts in an interview with The Epoch Times earlier on Feb. 18, saying they âought to deeply trouble progressives.â
Hannity asked Trump about how his administration would handle potential cuts to such areas. Trump said Musk would be kept away from them.
Musk said he would steer clear of those minefields, too.
âIâll recuse myself,â he said.
Musk, Trump Talk DOGE Workers
The wide-ranging interview repeatedly landed on the topic of DOGEâs employees, which include many engineers.
The president said that Musk âattracts a young, very smart type of personâI call them high-IQ individuals.â
âThese guys are smart, and they love the country,â Trump added.
Musk said DOGEâs software engineers âcould be earning millions of dollars a year instead of earning a small fraction of that as federal employees.â
Trump described the DOGErs as âvery committed people.â
One DOGE aide in the Treasury Department resigned after reporting revealed his history of controversial online posts. Vice President JD Vance and Trump supported his rehiring, after which Musk announced he would be reinstated.

The then-Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump, left, claps as Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk prepares to depart after speaking at a campaign event at the Butler Farm Show on Oct. 5, 2024, in Butler, Pa. Alex Brandon/AP Photo
Musk, Trump Discuss Bringing Astronauts Home
The trio also discussed a plan to accelerate the rescue of NASA astronauts Sunita Williams and Butch Wilmore.
Initially slated for an eight-day mission, the pair have been stuck on the International Space Station (ISS) since June due to mechanical issues with the Boeing Starliner spacecraft that would have taken them home.
Trump, in January, said he asked SpaceX CEO Musk to expedite their return.
NASA has since moved up a scheduled April return to March. Williams and Wilmore will come back to Earth after the SpaceX Crew-10 mission reaches the ISS.
In the Feb. 18 broadcast, Trump said the two âgot left in space,â blaming his predecessor, former President Joe Biden.
Musk said the astronautsâ return âwas postponed kind of to a ridiculous degree.â
âWe donât want to be complacent, but we have brought astronauts back from the space station many times before, and always with success,â he said.
On DOGE, $1 Trillion Floated
The pair also talked about just how much waste, fraud, and abuse they expect DOGE to identify.
The president said DOGE was pinpointing âbillionsâand it will be hundreds of billionsâof dollars worth of fraud.â
He predicted Musk would identify $1 trillion in what Hannity called âwaste, fraud, abuse, corruption,â adding that he believes that to be âa very small percentageâ of that sort of suspect spending.
Musk did not dispute the trillion-dollar figure.
The technologist said that saving money for the American taxpayer âcomes down to two things: competence and caring.â
âIt stands to reason that if you donât have competence and you donât have caring, youâre going to get a terrible deal,â he said.
Trump said that government contracts are not whittled down by the kind of give-and-take common to private-sector negotiations.
âEverybody expects to be cut,â he said.
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