Cohen Testifies About Talks With Costello

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Mr. Cohen said from 2017 through summer of 2018 he made $4.5 million, and that between the time he pled guilty and published his book had no income, and many bills to pay.

He started his podcast fall 2020 during home confinement and published his book, and has made about $4 million, or about $1 million per year, since that.

Mr. Cohen said he also has a podcast in the works with the title “Fixer.”

Mr. Blanche asked about 2018, when the story about Ms. Clifford's NDA was published. Mr. Cohen said he could not recall several of the communications Mr. Blanche asked about, and confirmed he recalled recording several calls with reporters at the time. On April 9, 2018, the FBI raided Mr. Cohen's residence, and then he received a message from Jeffrey Citron to set up a meeting with Mr. Costello to discuss representation. "I believe they brought some sort of retainer agreement, yes," Mr. Cohen said. Mr. Cohen said he had 10 or more phone conversations with Mr. Costello over the following months. On April 23, Mr. Costello sent a message to Mr. Cohen: "Michael, I spoke with the person you asked me to, and he said he would find out exactly how the matter ended up in the SDNY." Mr. Cohen confirmed that person was Mr. Giuliani. "Part of their [FBI] probably cause for the search warrant was Mr. Friedman?" Mr. Blanche asked. "Correct," Mr. Cohen said. "I had leased taxi medallions to him." More emails between Mr. Cohen and Mr. Costello were entered into evidence. Mr. Cohen wrote, "Bob, as I have stated in the past, when the right time comes, and now is not the right time, we will advance our conversations regarding this issue. There are too many hands right now all with varying view points and ideas." Mr. Costello wrote on May 16, "Michael, I realize you are under a tremendous strain and every day this Avenatti guy brings you more stuff to try to paint you in a negative way, even though it has nothing to do with his alleged client Stormy Daniels. As I said before, this is psychological warfare." Mr. Cohen confirmed they had long calls that weekend, but not if he called or received the calls. "How many times, if you can recall, did you meet with Mr. Costello in person?" Mr. Blanche asked. "I believe it was once or twice," he said. Other emails previously shown in court were referenced again. "You were also talking to him at that time about who was going to pay for Mr. Costello, correct?" Mr. Blanche asked. "And the reason why I ask that question, Mr. Cohen, is that it looks like in the earlier email you write to Mr. Costello, "I'm not sure what concerns you have, sir ...' in the time that you started speaking with Mr. Costello and now, there had been a change in whether the Trump Organization was paying their lawyers?" "Correct," Mr. Cohen said. "There was significant invoices that were being sent by McDermott Will & Emery to the Trump Organization for payment, and the payment was not being made in accordance with the invoices. I expressed to him that the nonpayment was becoming an issue, and to let Mr. Giuliani to pass that along to President Trump, that it was becoming an issue."    Robert Costello speaks during a House Judiciary Committee hearing on the weaponization of the federal government in Washington on May 15, 2024, in a still from video. (House Judiciary Committee/Screenshot via NTD)
Mr. Blanche asked about 2018, when the story about Ms. Clifford’s NDA was published. Mr. Cohen said he could not recall several of the communications Mr. Blanche asked about, and confirmed he recalled recording several calls with reporters at the time. On April 9, 2018, the FBI raided Mr. Cohen’s residence, and then he received a message from Jeffrey Citron to set up a meeting with Mr. Costello to discuss representation. “I believe they brought some sort of retainer agreement, yes,” Mr. Cohen said. Mr. Cohen said he had 10 or more phone conversations with Mr. Costello over the following months. On April 23, Mr. Costello sent a message to Mr. Cohen: “Michael, I spoke with the person you asked me to, and he said he would find out exactly how the matter ended up in the SDNY.” Mr. Cohen confirmed that person was Mr. Giuliani. “Part of their [FBI] probably cause for the search warrant was Mr. Friedman?” Mr. Blanche asked. “Correct,” Mr. Cohen said. “I had leased taxi medallions to him.” More emails between Mr. Cohen and Mr. Costello were entered into evidence. Mr. Cohen wrote, “Bob, as I have stated in the past, when the right time comes, and now is not the right time, we will advance our conversations regarding this issue. There are too many hands right now all with varying view points and ideas.” Mr. Costello wrote on May 16, “Michael, I realize you are under a tremendous strain and every day this Avenatti guy brings you more stuff to try to paint you in a negative way, even though it has nothing to do with his alleged client Stormy Daniels. As I said before, this is psychological warfare.” Mr. Cohen confirmed they had long calls that weekend, but not if he called or received the calls. “How many times, if you can recall, did you meet with Mr. Costello in person?” Mr. Blanche asked. “I believe it was once or twice,” he said. Other emails previously shown in court were referenced again. “You were also talking to him at that time about who was going to pay for Mr. Costello, correct?” Mr. Blanche asked. “And the reason why I ask that question, Mr. Cohen, is that it looks like in the earlier email you write to Mr. Costello, “I’m not sure what concerns you have, sir …’ in the time that you started speaking with Mr. Costello and now, there had been a change in whether the Trump Organization was paying their lawyers?” “Correct,” Mr. Cohen said. “There was significant invoices that were being sent by McDermott Will & Emery to the Trump Organization for payment, and the payment was not being made in accordance with the invoices. I expressed to him that the nonpayment was becoming an issue, and to let Mr. Giuliani to pass that along to President Trump, that it was becoming an issue.”   Robert Costello speaks during a House Judiciary Committee hearing on the weaponization of the federal government in Washington on May 15, 2024, in a still from video. (House Judiciary Committee/Screenshot via NTD)

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Mr. Blanche asked about the hiring of Marc Kasowitz as President Trump’s personal attorney when special counsel Robert Mueller began his investigation.

Mr. Cohen confirmed this had not changed his role or relationship with president Trump. He said the two attorneys were in touch, with Mr. Cohen actively reviewing subpoenaed documents in January and February, and that he had no part in selecting Mr. Kasowitz.

Mr. Cohen also confirmed working with First Lady Melania Trump on multiple occasions in February, March, and April 2017.

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Mr. Cohen confirmed that Mr. Weisselberg had called the $420,000 a retainer, and asked him to send in invoices, but that he was not going to have a retainer going forward.

Mr. Cohen said those were the only two conversations he had with Mr. Weisselberg about his role as Mr. Trump’s attorney.

Mr. Blanche showed Mr. Cohen an email from Mr. Weisselberg to Mr. Cohen on Jan. 31, 2017, asking him to “please prepare the agreement we discussed.”

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Mr. Blanche asked Mr. Cohen about the $50,000 reimbursement for Red Finch polling, when Mr. Cohen and former Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg came to a $420,000 agreement.

Mr. Cohen confirmed he had originally paid his Red Finch connection $20,000 in cash, and he had it in a brown paper bag.

“He still wanted the $30,000, this placated him for the time being. I still needed his services. So I gave him the amount he needed for his out of pocket expenses,” Mr. Cohen said.

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Mr. Cohen previously testified he had two phone calls with then-candidate Trump the morning of Oct. 26, 2016.

“Now you testified on direct that the reason you spoke with President Trump on that day was you needed his approval for what you were doing,” Mr. Blanche said. “You did not want Ms. Daniels to sell her story to the Daily Mail, and you wanted his approval?”

“That’s correct,” Mr. Cohen said.

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Mr. Blanche followed up with questions confirming Mr. Cohen’s earlier answers in testimony. Then he asked about Mr. Cohen’s taxi medallion business.

Mr. Cohen confirmed several messages exchanged around Oct. 13, 2016, including with his medallion agent Mr. Friedman.

“You were having issues with Mr. Friedman paying you during that time period,” Mr. Blanche asked.

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Mr. Cohen said he met with Rep. Dan Goldman twice.

Mr. Goldman, a critic of President Trump, has been commenting on the trial in the media.

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Mr. Cohen continued his testimony under cross-examination. He said he did not speak with reporters about the case.

Mr. Cohen said he since the beginning of the year, he has spoken to prosecutors close to 20 times. He last met with them about 10 days ago.

“When you met with the prosecutors again, they asked you questions similar to what they asked you Monday and Tuesday?” defense attorney Todd Blanche asked.

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Justice Merchan ordered the parties to draft definitions to give to the other side and come to an agreement.

“The simpler the better,” he said. “If the two sides can agree on the definitions of those terms, that’s all the better. You decide who wants to draft it and who wants to do a redline, and you can send it to me.”

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Defense attorney Emil Bove argued that testimony limited to definitions of these terms would not help the jury much.

“The tough spot that we’re in right now is that your honor has not indicated a firm intention to instruct the jury on FECA,” Mr. Bove said. “If you’re willing to give us any sense on whether you’re going to instruct the jury on these issues, we would come to the pre-charge conference … and we would resolve that at the charge conference.”

Justice Merchan said that his position was that “I often think that less is better.”

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Last week, defense attorneys asked the court to allow expert testimony from Bradley Smith, a former FEC commissioner, on terms in the statutes prosecutors are using in the case.

The judge said the expert would not be allowed to offer interpretation of the law, such as what it means to violate a statute in “for the purpose of influencing the election.” Justice Merchan said if the defense were allowed to offer an interpretation of the law, he would have to allow the prosecutors to do so as well, and “this would result in a battle of experts” that would confuse rather than enlighten the jury.

“Therefore, I again invite you to submit proposed jury instructions,” he told the parties.

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Defense attorney Todd Blanche sought to submit an email communication between an associate of Robert Costello’s and Michael Cohen.

“That’s direct impeachment to what Mr. Cohen testified no Tuedsay, he testified that he didn’t really feel like he clicked with Mr. Costello,” Mr. Blanche said. The associate expressed they were pleased with what was discussed with Mr. Cohen and requested a follow-up call.

Last week, prosecutors showed in court several emails between Mr. Costello and Mr. Cohen, and Mr. Cohen testified that he did not trust Mr. Costello, whom he viewed as a spy for Rudy Giuliani who would report anything Mr. Cohen said back to Mr. Costello.

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Justice Merchan said that issues attorneys brought up over the weekend made it clear they weren’t ready for summations on Tuedsay.

“It looks like we’ll be finishing up evidence this week so we can have summations next week,” he said.

The parties submitted and objected to exhibits shown to the judge.

Attorney Alan Dershowitz and Former New York City Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik listen as former President Donald Trump speaks to the media after arriving for court during his trial on May 20, 2024 in New York City. (Steven Hirsch-Pool/Getty Images)
Attorney Alan Dershowitz and Former New York City Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik listen as former President Donald Trump speaks to the media after arriving for court during his trial on May 20, 2024 in New York City. (Steven Hirsch-Pool/Getty Images)

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President Trump said he had plans to make a campaign stop this morning before he was alerted that court would convene early today.

“I’m here instead of campaigning. As you know, I was supposed to be in a very different state this morning, when the judge actually decided to call it early and get it looks like we’re gonna have a very big gap between days and it’s going to be determined right now in court,” he said.

“But we’re here about an hour early today. I was supposed to be making the speech. for political purposes. I’m not allowed to have anything to do with politics because I’m sitting in a very freezing cold, dark room for the last four weeks. It’s very unfair. They have no case to have no crime.”

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Flanking former President Donald Trump today are South Carolina Attorney General Alan Wilson, Rep. Eric Burlison, Rep. Andrew Clyde, Rep. Mary Miller, Rep. Keith Self, John Coale, Alan Dershowitz, Will Scharf, Steve Witkoff, Bernie Kerik, Kash Patel, Vernon Jones, Jerry Kassar, Chuck Zito, per the Trump campaign.

Trump Trial Coming to a Close as Trump Testimony Seems Unlikely
Former President Donald Trump attends his trial at Manhattan Criminal Court in New York City, on May 14, 2024. (Michael M. Santiago/Pool/AFP)

As the defense tries to keep prosecutors guessing about whether former President Donald Trump will take the witness stand to defend himself in his criminal trial in New York, New York Supreme Court Justice Juan Merchan has instructed the parties to prepare for the upcoming week assuming the testimony may not happen.

“Please be prepared to begin summations on Tuesday,” the judge told attorneys last Friday.

On Friday, prosecutors confirmed they would call no more witnesses. Ex-lawyer Michael Cohen will return to the witness exam to wrap up questioning by defense and prosecuting attorneys, and defense lawyers said in court Friday they plan to call a handful of rebuttal witnesses, including experts, whose limited testimonies may be wrapped up within a day.

Why Cohen Poses a Problem for the Prosecution in Trump Trial
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NEW YORK CITY—Government lawyers in the criminal trial of former President Donald Trump have taken a carefully calculated approach, seeking to balance lengthy testimony from an admitted perjurer with voluminous phone, email, text, and audio records that they are betting a jury in a deep blue city will find objectively reliable, according to legal experts.

Throughout the trial, prosecutors have punctuated their questioning of witnesses with frequent requests to move an item into evidence and show it to the jury, and the judge has rarely said no.

Their painstaking use of records to construct a documentary history of an alleged coverup of a nondisclosure agreement payment—what the prosecution alleges amounts to election fraud—tacitly acknowledges that former Trump lawyer and “fixer” Michael Cohen is not a witness that most lawyers would normally want make the focus of their case, the experts say.

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